yes...it is true.
though my picture here is fairly close to what i really look like50 tomorrow.
since i shall be busy tomorrow celebrating my fifty years of existence and especially my almost 5 years of freedom from the (b)org...please be kind to this old lady and stop by and wish me a happy birthday!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
To 'HadEnuf' from 'Had Enough'
Seeing that we basically have the same user names, we must both feel the same way about the borg.
I haven't been posting much but couldn't resist jumping in to wish you all the best. I love to see the happiness people get out of being able to celebrate birthdays for the first time in their lives.
Enjoy your day to the fullest and make up for all those lost years. The freedom we have now is a precious thing.
Had Enough
i'm off to new york this morning.
i'm fortunate that my oldest daughter will drive with me, missing class to support her mom and possibly to say a final farewell to her grandma.. my mother has has two strokes this year, and, after the first one in may, told me that she felt like she was dying from the inside out.
she had another stroke at the end of august, and was eventually put in a nursing home.
(((((((My dearest Brenda)))))))
I just saw this thread today and I'm so sorry you are having to go through all this pain and upset. This is such a frightening time for family and for your mom herself.
I'm glad you are taking steps to be with her in her last days. It will be such a comfort to her and to you as well, now and in your memories of this time.
There is wonderful information in print from the hospital and hospice care these days about how the dying may behave so it really helps family members to not be so devastated by possibly hurtful behaviour or responses from ones like your mom. The info really helped me when my mom was dying and even though we did not get along the best during all our lives, I was grateful to have been there with her during her final days.
Please know that I join all the others in my thoughts and love for you dear lady.
Hugs to you and your family,
Had Enough
i: some relevant quotes from watchtower publications
1: the position of the watchtower as regards smoking
*** jv 181 13 recognized by our conduct ***.
Wow Expat...I am impressed!!
Thanks for finding this blatant piece of hypocrisy and analyzing it in your Sherlock manner.
Just when I think I won't get upset anymore by the sneaky, underhanded, overbearing, intrusive, tyranical, "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do type family-wreckers, something else comes along that strikes a nerve like this does.
Sometime, I hope within the next month or so, I am going to post someone's story of the disgraceful way this group of antiquated old poops has calously manipulated and caused a dear friend to live his last few years in hardship because of their inforcement of this unscriptural, man-made law.
Thank you Expat, for giving me the nudge I needed to tell this person's story for him. I will be forever grateful to him for the way he patiently helped me open my eyes and so needless to say, this bit of detective work you've done, will be of great interest to him and encourage him because, as others have already noted....this could very likely snowball into something verrrrry interesting.
Cheers,
Had Enough
as most are aware, vicki boer has been long awaiting a decision to be handed down in a case she started against the society in canada.. the decision was handed down today.
as with any 55 page decision, it will take some time for the legal experts to hash it over and decipher what was said.
but, in a nutshell..... vicki won.
I don't know what went wrong with my attempt at copying a quotation. It seems it was cut off in mid-sentence, so I'll try to paste it once more...If this doesn't work, sorry folks....
"The Judge also spent about 10 pages explaining why in Canada the freedoms given to religion are NOT absolute and damage to an individual supercedes the rights of a religion."
I have now re-typed it, so if that doesn't show the whole quotation, I give up. Editing is not working for me today.
H.E.
as most are aware, vicki boer has been long awaiting a decision to be handed down in a case she started against the society in canada.. the decision was handed down today.
as with any 55 page decision, it will take some time for the legal experts to hash it over and decipher what was said.
but, in a nutshell..... vicki won.
Yahoo Vickie!!
I am soooooooooo happy for you. I truly believe this decision has opened the doors for so much more to be accomplished in getting justice for the multitudes of injustices from the WTS.
The Judge gave an excellent write up regarding the stranglehold the Borg has on its adherents. i.e While it is true Vicki was legally an adult when she attended the committee meetings to confront her abuser, she was by no means capable of free will to decide not to attend due to the relationship and power held over her by the church.
This remark about, even though she was an adult when she had those committe meetings, "she was by no means capable of free will", made me particularly happy because we really wondered in Court, whether the Judge understood the magnitude of this power and influence the WTS wields, even over its elders. I would, however, liked to have seen more culpability (at least some) placed on the elders. Even though some act reluctantly under the influence of the WTS, there are too many who wield their rod of power with full enjoyment and belief in the unquestionability of their word.
The Judge also spent about 10 pages explaining why in
And I agree with Scully that this statement is HUGE in is possibilities for other ex-jws whose families have been torn apart by the WTS tactics of control over blood transfusions and other "rules", through disfellowshipping and shunning.
((((((Vickie))))))....I wish this could have been read in court, all 55 pages of it, and we could have been there with you again. The cheers from our little numbers on our side of the court, would probably have been deafening to the silence from the stone faces on the other side. How I would have loved to have seen their faces change from smug smiles to shock.
I hope now this victory, even though the $$ award was pawltry, can help bring some closure to your lives, and you and your dear husband and girls, can go on with this all behind you.
Love and Hugs,
Had Enough
Edited to try and fix a missing part of a quotation.
yep, it's that time again!
so, how's your weekend going?
after a week of rain, we were pleased to see a bright sunny wintery day.
Thank you Ozzie:
I've been trying to keep up with the board on a regular basis. These are hectic times right now for us, so I have been only getting 5-10 minutes on scattered days to visit the board, so I know I've missed alot lately. Hope you and Mrs. Ozzie are keeping well and I hope also to email you folks again soon.
Blondie:
It all depends on the elder body and their ability to stand up to an elder or CO who wants to override process. It makes you realize how easy it is for one elder or the CO to override the judicial process.
Yes this is so true. I've seen it happen in several congregations I've been in. But at least we know it doesn't go unnoticed and often is part of the eroding process from the mind-control for some who are now part of the enlightened ones.
Had Enough
yep, it's that time again!
so, how's your weekend going?
after a week of rain, we were pleased to see a bright sunny wintery day.
Greetings Ozzie:
Your news of some of the upper echelon questioning and having their own "Crises of Conscience" is very encouraging. Questioning seems to be a vital 1st step that leads to opening ones eyes and becoming liberated. I continue to hope for that effect to become more evident in our area and in fact all areas of the world.
As to you fun weekend poll: Our last decorating adventure turned out to be fiasco. The elders thought they would do the best thing by bringing in a professional decorator who chose a few combinations of paint and wallpaper and brought us samples for the congregation to "vote" on. Once one particularly lovely combination became the most popular, we were all enthused at the cheerfulness it would bring. However, when the Circuit Overseer visited and saw the congregation's choice, he vetoed it saying it looked too much like home decorations instead of a "House of Worship". So he gave his decorating advice? and the congregation listened.
The result: same ole, same ole. Drab combinations of muted colours and a few enhancing trims giving the same ole cold, uninviting, sterilized, solemn atmosphere. And as is the custom....that CO has moved on, but the decorations have stayed.
Oh well, at least I don't have to look at it day in and day out anymore 'cuz I've "had enough".
Cheers,
Had Enough
nope, not to to the board but to stuff i've needed to let go!
anyone who has dealt with depression and the internal effects of sustained negative emotions will understand this, i think.
its been a rough year, for many reasons, and i apologize to those whom ive not had the energy and emotional wherewithal to support.
Hey ((((((((Dana)))))))
You gave me a scare for a minute ...even though I've only been briefly visiting the board whenever I can for the past few months.
I am so glad to see the growth and accomplishment you have achieved in your battles with negativity and all the stuff that accompanies it.
I know I've been a baaaaad buddy for not keeping in touch lately but knowing each other as we do, I know you’ll understand the turmoil I’ve been going through and you know I understand the same for you.
You wrote: “ I’ve been able to look outward again, instead of remaining focused on a negative internal landscape…” I t encouraged me so much to hear you say that and it moves me to want to do the same.
A dear friend of ours once told me that I've been going in circles for the past year or more and that is so true. Trying to find my happy place has been a very difficult journey given how easily and quickly my home and work circumstances change. Just when I think they are finally starting to straighten out, kaboom….a monkey wrench gets thrown in the middle. So lately I’ve been concentrating on finding a way out of this quicksand-like condition I’ve let myself stand in without cutting off my feet.
I hope we can talk again soon and discuss this new-found philosophy you have and all the other stuff we need to catch up on.
he sucks up so much bandwidth that he's now an emperor!.
thanks for hammering on that keyboard, alan.
you've helped a lot of people see the light, including me (even if it did take a few years .
Congrats Emperor Alan !!!
Another Canuck bowing to your well-deserved rise in posting status.
I feel a deep gratitude for the contribution to my education that you supplied in my earlier months of "waking up" through your posts and emails. You have demonstrated time and again a sincere caring for helping people open their own eyes to discovering the "real truth" and for that I will always be grateful.
Many, many thanks to the hours you have taken from your homelife to contribute to helping others learn what you have discovered. Many thanks go to your dear wife as well for selflessly sharing your time and knowledge with us.
OK I'm done bowing so low now....my back hurts.
Had Enough
edited because its late and I'm already asleep
Edited by - Had Enough on 7 February 2003 23:32:36
for everyone who's watched.... or is in the process of watching the show..... .
please feel free to post your comments.... reactions.... quotes that stood out in your mind here!.
love, scully
Hi Shera:
I think they said the name "Thomas"...last name I think. I'll check my tape again tomorrow..(hubby's watching a movie right now)
Can you say which congregation he was PO in?
Had Enough
